Why Gohan can use Super Saiyajin

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Why Gohan can use Super Saiyajin
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+ Ssj3vegito96	Apr 29 2015, 01:26 AM Post #61
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	None of this matters. What matters is 1. Toriyama said a long time ago all these newer movies he would work on are intended to be part of the manga 2. RF makes BOG canon
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Raiken	Apr 29 2015, 10:18 AM Post #62
Posts: 454 Group: Member Member #7,460 Joined: March 20, 2012 Favourite Anime Naruto Shippuden What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Naruto	Ssj3vegito96 Apr 29 2015, 01:26 AM None of this matters. What matters is 1. Toriyama said a long time ago all these newer movies he would work on are intended to be part of the manga 2. RF makes BOG canon Anime Canon



+ Pointer	Apr 29 2015, 10:21 AM Post #63
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	why he couldnt I mean old kaio only said it is not necessary to transform because it wont give any increase .....He didnt say that " boy from now on you can not transform to ssj"



+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Apr 29 2015, 01:25 PM Post #64
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Raiken Apr 29 2015, 10:18 AM Ssj3vegito96 Apr 29 2015, 01:26 AM None of this matters. What matters is 1. Toriyama said a long time ago all these newer movies he would work on are intended to be part of the manga 2. RF makes BOG canon Anime Canon There is no established canon, so stop pretending you know what is.
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Dagon	Apr 29 2015, 01:38 PM Post #65
Posts: 214 Group: Member Member #12,224 Joined: April 9, 2015	Think about the older Budokai games for PS2. Gohan was just one character, with base, SSJ, SSJ2, and Ultimate Unlock as transformations. Looks like that's right.



AkiyoSSJ	Apr 29 2015, 03:29 PM Post #66
Posts: 16 Group: Member Member #12,254 Joined: April 21, 2015 Gender Male Country None Favourite Anime Code Geass What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga -	Omg a lot of GT,Gohan fanboys. This is like you disagree with Akira Toriyama's work, just show some gratitude guys, DBZ is alive for real because of him and that happened mostly because of the existence of BoG, stop going of topic. Too much fangasm with Gohan and this overrated subject about canon,non-canon. Just accept this guys, GT and movie 1-13 are not canon! Also about Gohan's Mystik form, I think is just a transformation that surpass the Super Saiyan 1,2,3, I never thought that during the Mystik form is possible to transform in SSJ, even in games you can't, Mystik being the last,strongest form for Gohan. In RF Gohan completely lost the Mystik form because of not training, if he didn't then why not used vs Frieza(without the golden form) and to have greater resistance? Still I wanted to ask if is true what I think: does Gohan's Mystik form is weaker in BoG because of not training? It seems that SSJ3 is stronger than Mystik in BoG. Edited by AkiyoSSJ, Apr 29 2015, 03:36 PM.



sekzee	Apr 29 2015, 03:32 PM Post #67
Posts: 1,336 Group: Member Member #11,101 Joined: March 25, 2014 Gender Not Specified What Browser do you use? Firefaux Favourite Manga Nein	Vertical Apr 28 2015, 11:14 PM sekzee Apr 28 2015, 11:06 PM Nagito Komaeda Apr 28 2015, 10:59 PM Makes you question how valid #17 and #18 are as villains. Given that Toriyama initially intended #19 and #20 to be the Androids that Trunks spoke of, and only changed course because one of his editors (iirc) told him that they looked too silly to be the main antagonists, it's an interesting question of whether #17 and #18 are as valid as the others due to the fact that Toriyama probably had to come up with them in a very short amount of time. All of my what. #19 and #20 were supposed to be the "big bads" of that arc. Toriyama's friend (previously his editor) laughed them off and asked when the real villains would arrive. He did the same for #17, #18. He also encouraged that Semi-Perfect Cell hurry up and achieve perfection... because of how he looked. I know that already. 17/18 were not even like their evil future counterparts, so AT ended up trollin' who ever told him to change the villains anyway. Edited by sekzee, Apr 29 2015, 03:33 PM.



-Freeman	Apr 29 2015, 10:12 PM Post #68
I think I need a doctor Posts: 539 Group: Member Member #7,814 Joined: June 23, 2012 Gender Male Country Canada	If you guys really wanna put Battle of Gods in the same canon as the manga, then we might as well close the "Dragon Ball Versus" section of this forum. Let's say I make a topic "Mystic Gohan vs SSJ3 Goku (Buu saga)". According to the manga (and logic), Mystic Gohan would stomp, according to the BoG, Goku would win. Again, there isn't a definitive canon, but fans have always separated the manga from everything else, it's just more convenient and more coherent as the manga doesn't have any major plot hole or inconsistency that would make debating it impossible, like the anime, GT and the films have.



sekzee	Apr 29 2015, 11:23 PM Post #69
Posts: 1,336 Group: Member Member #11,101 Joined: March 25, 2014 Gender Not Specified What Browser do you use? Firefaux Favourite Manga Nein	-Freeman Apr 29 2015, 10:12 PM If you guys really wanna put Battle of Gods in the same canon as the manga, then we might as well close the "Dragon Ball Versus" section of this forum. Let's say I make a topic "Mystic Gohan vs SSJ3 Goku (Buu saga)". According to the manga (and logic), Mystic Gohan would stomp, according to the BoG, Goku would win. What? There is nothing suggesting Buu Saga SSJ3 Goku would pwn Gohan in BOG. Spoiler: click to toggle That's not to say he couldn't...somehow... Edited by sekzee, Apr 29 2015, 11:23 PM.



+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Apr 29 2015, 11:24 PM Post #70
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	-Freeman Apr 29 2015, 10:12 PM If you guys really wanna put Battle of Gods in the same canon as the manga, then we might as well close the "Dragon Ball Versus" section of this forum. Let's say I make a topic "Mystic Gohan vs SSJ3 Goku (Buu saga)". According to the manga (and logic), Mystic Gohan would stomp, according to the BoG, Goku would win. Again, there isn't a definitive canon, but fans have always separated the manga from everything else, it's just more convenient and more coherent as the manga doesn't have any major plot hole or inconsistency that would make debating it impossible, like the anime, GT and the films have. Battle of Gods is also 4 years after the Boo saga. Plenty of time for Goku to get stronger. Honestly though, Goku, pre god, doesn't have to be stronger than Gohan in this film.
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-Freeman	Apr 29 2015, 11:34 PM Post #71
I think I need a doctor Posts: 539 Group: Member Member #7,814 Joined: June 23, 2012 Gender Male Country Canada	I'm posting this from my phone so I can't get an exact quote right now, but it is HEAVILY implied that pre-God SSJ3 Goku is the strongest of the Z warriors including Gotenks. I'll get the exact quotes when I'm on my PC.



+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Apr 29 2015, 11:40 PM Post #72
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	-Freeman Apr 29 2015, 11:34 PM I'm posting this from my phone so I can't get an exact quote right now, but it is HEAVILY implied that pre-God SSJ3 Goku is the strongest of the Z warriors including Gotenks. I'll get the exact quotes when I'm on my PC. I created the Battle of Gods strength checker, and I don't think anything definitively proves SSJ3 Goku's superiority over Ultimate Gohan.
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-Freeman	May 1 2015, 04:09 AM Post #73
I think I need a doctor Posts: 539 Group: Member Member #7,814 Joined: June 23, 2012 Gender Male Country Canada	I watched the film again today, it really wasn't as clear as I remembered for some reason. But Vegeta with the raging boost puts up a MUCH better fight against suppressed Beerus than Gohan and Gotenks do, making Roshi say "He's even stronger than Goku". So according to BoG, Rage Boost Vegeta > Mystic Gohan and Gotenks (judging by the film alone, it's unclear how Gohan and Gotenks compare). I would even argue that Roshi's comment implies that Rage Boost Vegeta > SSJ3 Goku > Gohan, but that's just speculation. What is clearly implied is that Vegeta is stronger than Gohan and SSJ (maybe SSJ2) Gotenks which is simply absurd.



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